Most likely timeline?/Filling plot-holes? « Thread Started on Jul 9, 2008, 4:22pm »
This is the big conflict within the Puppet Master universe. WHAT ORDER TO THE MOVIES GO IN?!? Well, I have a theory that fills in the gaps OK, though still not perfectly:
Retro - I usually disregard this film due to all the plotholes and filling in the gaps required, but if it needs to be canon, then Afzel provides Toulon with his first knowledge of the life formula. In the PMII flashbacks the old Egyptian man is a messenger of Sutekh who first gives Toulon the knowledge of the "brain juice formula" to make his puppets stronger and more vicious, in hopes of bringing hell on Earth.
PM III - After the retro puppets somehow die (Perhaps burned with Toulon's Cairo puppet show?), Toulon makes more out of the souls of more friends killed by the Nazis, which he uses to entertain German citizens with anti-Hitler satire. The Nazis however catch wind of Toulon's secret and kill his wife before taking the formula for themselves to be studied, leading Toulon to swear revenge on them, becoming his obsession for most of the remainder of his natural life. Toulon eventually befriends the scientist in charge of studying his formula, and transfers his willing soul into the puppet Blade after his death. With his puppets, and the stolen identity of the Major who ordered his wife's death, Toulon flees Germany.
PM I - Toulon tries fighting Nazis more but ends up cornered by them and loses Six-Shooter somewhere along the line. Fleeing to America but still found, he kills himself in hopes of foiling the Nazis for now and being resurrected by a kind master later. This does not happen, instead the formula is found and the puppets are reawakened by Neil Gallagher, who hopes to become immortal, but is foiled by Alex Whitaker, a psychic and his former colleague, and his ex-wife Megan.
PM II - With Gallagher dead, the lonely puppets kill Megan in order to have the formula needed to resurrect Toulon. However, Toulon awakens either without a soul, or with a corrupted soul. Toulon tries to create new puppet bodies for himself and the woman he believes to be the reincarnation of Elsa, and goes on a killing spree in order to get the formula needed to power these bodies. To help him with this, he creates Torch from Gallagher's soul. Tunneler and a newly leechless Leech Woman (somehow the formula keeps her leeches live and breeding, and without it they all died inside her) die. Toulon's remianing puppets betray him, kill him, and end up freeing his soul. The puppets, looking for a new master resurrect Camille, one of their victims. Camille goes on a killing spree. The puppets except Torch eventually desert Camille to search for Six-Shooter, who somewhere along the line was picked up by Dr. Magrew.
Curse - At Magrew's museum, his assistant Matt Derry repairs Tunneler and Leech Woman (Though the latter is still weak and has no more leeches). Due to the other puppets arriving, he becomes not only willing to put them on display, but obsessed with finding out how to create more. He tries to turn Matt into a wooden puppet, but ends up making him a mutated mess. After trying to kill his newly twisted assistant, he hires a new one, "Tank", a slow-witted gas jockey but talented woodworker, and convinces him to "put his soul" into a new wooden puppet. Eventually due to his tiresome work, Tank becomes sick and weak, which leads to Magrew wanting to transfer his soul into a tiny robotic body. Magrew succeeds, but the vengeful puppets (Including the metal Tank puppet) end up killing him for forcing an unwilling soul to join them. Jane, Magrew's daughter arrives to see her father killed, and possibly puts the Tank puppet out of his misery before delivering the puppets back to Bodega Bay, and shutting the lock on their trunk tight.
PM IV - In hopes of finding artificial intelligence, Rick Meyers resurrects all the puppets except for Leech Woman, who was still too damaged to function. Sutekh, a messenger for a deity of death doesn't wish for a kind person like Rick to have the secret of life, and with the help of Camille, newly made one of Sutekh's servants, sends the demon Totems to kill him and other doctors working on the same project as him. Meyers is however saved by Toulon's soul, now free to inhabit the puppet Decapitron in order to give advice to and help fight evil with the next puppet master.
PM V - Camille has Torch infiltrate their ranks, unbeknownst to Meyers, believing Torch was simply lost somewhere. Meanwhile Sutekh himself puts his own essence into a Totem body in hopes of killing Rick, but ends up probably dying himself. Camille takes Tunneler and Torch and fixes up Leech Woman, and they go one to wreak more havok. (In the RP Camille dies, Leech Woman is taken by a mental patient who brings it to an antiques dealer, and Tunneler and Torch are taken as police evidence, and are eventually bought by Richard Sanchez).
Legacy - Thinking the rest of the puppets are in trouble, Rick sends them (excluding Decapitron who, in the RP is sent to his cousin Asta Tripp) to Peter Hertz, Toulon's (formerly) young friend for safekeeping. Rick's fears come true when he is killed by an assassin, who wishes to destroy the puppets "in order to set their souls free". Continuing on her mission, she finds and attempts to kill Hertz, who manages to get the upper hand and shoot her. Before she dies she mentions her intentions to Hertz, saying the puppets are tormented souls who now want revenge on their master. Hertz turns and shoots an unseen target, presumably one of the puppets, but that ending sucks and it came out of the blue, so I'm saying it was another assassin...
PM v DT - Hertz survives but puts the puppets up for auction either to protect himself or to protect them. This installment is not considered canon on this forum, RP timeline picks up directly after the Legacy. In the RP Hertz sells Pinhead, desperate for money, sends Six-Shooter to Asta for protection, and sends Blade and Jester to Cody Davis, knowing he is taking up Rick Meyers's work.
This is what I have for now. If anyone has anymore important continuity errors or "what abouts", bring 'em up here and I'll try my best to make sense of them . Also I'm not sure if this should belong in one of the RP forums in addition to this, since it does clear up some things and has a few add-ons concerning our RP for completeness sake.
Re: Most likely timeline?/Filling plot-holes? « Reply #3 on Sept 27, 2008, 9:15am »
Updated, added more info to the "PM 3" and "Curse" sections, and better integrated Camille into parts 4 and 5 (What if she was the black-nail-polished person who delivered the Totems? ) . Review it and see if it's still okay.
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Re: Most likely timeline?/Filling plot-holes? « Reply #4 on Nov 16, 2008, 4:14pm »
I must say great version of the Puppet Master time line. For me there are only four movies that go in the correct order. I should say is one and two are in order and as the same goes for Puppet Master 4 and 5. All the others go in any old order. I guess this is a series you can watch any way you like.
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Well, I have a theory that fills in the gaps OK, though still not perfectly:
. Also I'm not sure if this should belong in one of the RP forums in addition to this, since it does clear up some things and has a few add-ons concerning our RP for completeness sake.
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